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Helene Chenal
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Posted - 2013.03.21 18:03:00 -
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Shield boosting drake
Faction fit passive tengu with no prop mod
Faction fit proteus with drone sub
You and your friends in self repping faction fit battle cruisers
Two navy domis with faction tank
Faction fit Hyperion
Faction fit anything really, especially your noctis |
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Posted - 2013.03.21 19:43:00 -
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Trolling aside, get a tengu for solo c3s. Nothing else competes, certainly not a cap hungry laser repping legion.
I have wondered how a 100mn HAM Legion would work...
Considering you don't have the isk, I'd suggest running incursions, exploration, or solo c2 sites and save up for a T3. |
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Helene Chenal wrote:Trolling aside, get a tengu for solo c3s. Nothing else competes, certainly not a cap hungry laser repping legion.
I have wondered how a 100mn HAM Legion would work...
Considering you don't have the isk, I'd suggest running incursions, exploration, or solo c2 sites and save up for a T3. Have you tried it? Because I have with a legion friend of mine. We have raced anoms and the legion does far better then you would expect. It practically one shots the frigates and melts the cruisers faster than a tengu. The tengu can apply better damage on the battleships, but not like it used to since the furies range was merged. A perfect pair is a tengu/legion.
Were talking solo here - if you've got great cap skills, then yes, I could see that being partially true. Depends on the sites as well - some a legion will be completely nueted out no matter what. |
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:Edit: actually no, I'd still hesitate on the 1400 DPS site. Looking back at pyfa the 1B figure was just my bad memory at work.
I'd put isk on an oruze nesting out a laser rep legion. Easily. I don't think it could tank most c3 mags either. |
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Posted - 2013.03.21 20:27:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:Helene Chenal wrote:Inkarr Hashur wrote:Edit: actually no, I'd still hesitate on the 1400 DPS site. Looking back at pyfa the 1B figure was just my bad memory at work. I'd put isk on an oruze nesting out a laser rep legion. Easily. I don't think it could tank most c3 mags either. You'd lose the ISK then because I solo oruze without capping out. Now, did I do it leaving one of my reps off? I can't remember. I know I don't even need both for that low DPS site. Anyway I haven't even upgraded my cap control circuit yet. Its really not that big a deal.
Good point, I forgot how little DPS that site does. You're pretty stable with only one repper running. Doesn't help OP though - unless he gets the isk for a T3. Knowing OP personally, I'd say logging on and participating in group isk making might have solved that problem. |
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Mortrius wrote:Thank you all for the replies! So obviously Caldari are freaking awesome for Wormholes, which I have understood. Unfortunately, when I began training a long time ago, I didn't go for Caldari - and I'm not exactly able to make the switch in short time.
That being said, I'm hearing that the Legion is awesome - any fittings?
It would also seem that the Zealot would be really good with the right fitting, am I correct? I know I heard of some guy who used to solo a lot of C3s before the neut changes, but I haven't heard anything about after all of the changes.
I seriously doubt you could after the neutrino changes of almost two years ago. It's not even close to the legion in the tank department. Also, I told you when you joined MTCI to train Caldari if you were serious about WH PVE. Matter of fact, I came up with a skill plan at the time that put 0 sp toons in c3 capable drake in 3-4 weeks. It's not too late :p |
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Mortrius wrote:Hah, yes, I recall now. It's been quite a long time since I've seen you though, thank you for jogging my memory :D What's your C3-capable Drake skillplan then? Though I will say, I'm still interested in running armor in wormholes for the time being.
Honestly dude, the only reason not to use the legion is price - oh you'll make the isk for it, but running sites solo gets you ganked.
Same goes for any solo ship in a c3. You're better off running c2 sites solo until you can afford the legion. If you've got an alt, do 2 rr domis with sentries. If you can't do that, just join a WH corp that is active in your preferred hours. |
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Mortrius wrote:lilith silverstone wrote:You do realize that a Legion with a cap battery won't get neuter out by the sleepers on the hands of any pilot with an ounce of brains and anyone can get ganked in a site (yes even the mighty tengu/sarcasm) if you don't watch dscan.
Furthermore if training cladari for PVE limits what you can do PVE or PVP wise in c5+ where it's mostly all armour.
Unless of course you want to be relegated to jamming tengu, or bait drake. Interesting stuff. If I'm armor then, what do I work towards while in a C3 to get to a Legion? EDIT: And if that's the case and all of these other people who are saying that a Legion WILL get capped out, what fitting are you using to prevent that? They seem to have different experiences.
To be fair, the last time I did c3s was before the cap battery change as well.
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Fred P wrote:Helene Chenal wrote:
I seriously doubt you could after the neutrino changes of almost two years ago. It's not even close to the legion in the tank department. Also, I told you when you joined MTCI to train Caldari if you were serious about WH PVE. Matter of fact, I came up with a skill plan at the time that put 0 sp toons in c3 capable drake in 3-4 weeks. It's not too late :p
Would you care to share that skill plan? And perhaps a fit? Not that "train missile skills and ship skills" is too difficult a concept, but I'd like to know what constituted c3 capable.
Be able to fit tech 2 shield modules, and have your missile projection skills and skills that effect flight time to 4. You need at least 130ish regen solo, less if in a group. |
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Roime wrote:I'm testing this solo Domi. Goal is to have a T1 Gallente ship than can solo C3s without being completely reliant on cap boosters.
[Dominix, PVE 0.1]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Domination Large Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Drone Link Augmentor II
350mm Railgun II, Spike L
350mm Railgun II, Spike L
350mm Railgun II, Spike L
350mm Railgun II, Spike L
350mm Railgun II, Spike L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
+ lights, mediums med repper drones and ****, haven't settled on selection yet
643 dps @ 84km (max drone range. optimals are higher)
827 dps @ 30ish km
Needs fitting implant love, bloo bloo
Can permarun the Domination repper, which is enough for most parts of the waves. Overheat tank for beginning of heavy waves, reload AAR when not needed. Only tested true solo in OFS and FFS in non-bonused systems, works fine. Legion links needed for mag & radars.
Tank can easily be improved by replacing the DDA II with a RAH and/or upgrading the faction repper. Domination reppers cost nothing and use least cap but don't rep as much as the navy versions, faction is needed to make it fit. And yeah those hardwires too.
You'd be better off in a tech 2 blaster Hyperion IMHO
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